By Fareeha Qayoom
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Friend of mine started a discussion on our foreign policy the other day on Pakistanloversforum.com – the question he asked was pretty simple – peace with India but on what grounds? He invited me to take part in the discussion as well. What I said actually concluded that particular discussion and shut everyone up!
I wrote on January 9th 2010, “In my opinion, there can be no meaningful peace between India and Pakistan — if that had been possible, Pakistan would not have been created to begin with. If you remember your history — Jinnah served in congress for years working on theory of “United India” before going the other way (creation of separate homeland for the Muslims)…he tried giving peace a chance then…furthermore, the situation with Kashmir was created because India didn’t want a fair division of assets as agreed in the partition agreement…what’s happening with Muslims in India — to be successful, you have to assimilate in the society…the most popular and successful Muslim in India is Shahrukh Khan — to be accepted in the society — he married a Hindu lady (it could have been a love match, but Muslim men actually are not allowed to marry women belonging to idolatrous religions according to their religion– they can only marry Jews or Christians and that too because they all believe in one God, the God of Abraham. So he has publicly gone against his God and religion). Bigotry and bias will always be there and therefore, discrimination…you watch the Indian movies…haven’t you ever noticed, the villains are usually played by Muslims? In fact, Shahrukh started his movie career as a villain too? Furthermore, in their movies, the villains and gang leaders always have Muslim names? There is no social justice for Muslims in non-Muslim lands — Jinnah recognized this reality eventually and therefore, started working towards a separate country for Muslims…
Kashmir is a big issue — on the face of it, in diplomatic language, it’s about the right of self-determination — India or Pakistan (no third option was discussed in the UN Resolution!); however, the underlying factor that’s causing the friction is about water rights — Kashmir contains the origins of our fresh water rivers…you know glaciers and stuff. India doesn’t want you to have it. You are not going to give up on it — your survival depends on it…so stalemate-know what I mean?”
There the matter rested for me…and then out of the blue, yesterday (Jan 14th 2010), a young friend of mine (she’s still in university) sent me her random thoughts about the peace process, what our youth thinks about it (her contemporaries), the bigotry, hatred and lack of tolerance displayed by her friends for India and people of other religions. That got me thinking…Do I hate India? Am I a closet bigot? Am I intolerant about people of other religions?
I don’t think I hate India. In fact, I don’t think I ever did even in my youth. When I worked in one multinational organization with home office in New York – the Indian office used to be the regional headquarters and Pakistan liaison office actually reported to her. Our boss was a Sikh. We had a very good working relationship with him. We had great fun communicating one-to-one with our Indian counterparts. However, there was still friendly rivalry. (The same kind of rivalry that we display over our cricket teams – we hate losing to India, they hate losing to us). We would do our best to get orders placed in Pakistan and they would do their best to get them placed in India.
When I moved on to a Hong Kong based multinational company, I noticed our home office preferred Indians to us. There was no special hatred; just a preference and they preferred Hong Kong or the off-shore Orient to India. Again, there was no special hatred; just a natural preference. I remember my boss was actually best friends with the Indian country manager. She even visited Pakistan once. We took her around, threw a special party for her. Everyone had a good time. There was no hatred. She was very nice to us; we were very nice to her. We preferred her to our Hong Kong counterparts – (we had more in common with her than with our Hong Kong counterparts so it was actually quite natural). However, since she was better friends with our home office managers and more vocal, she managed to create a lot of friction behind the scenes (which was also natural). A lot of our orders got transferred to her region. Since she could understand Urdu, she quoted a lot of stuff out of context and made general trouble. It was naïve of us to actually think she wouldn’t use underhand tactics to undermine us. We were stupid. That doesn’t mean I started hating Indians suddenly. Just because we are conditioned to play fair, doesn’t mean our competitors have to also – you know, as they say it’s all fair in love and war. However, it taught me something – people prefer working with people they can like, understand or communicate with. Unfortunately, differences divide. Similarities bring people together. The more similar you are; the closer your bond and the better your relationship.
Not that there ended my cultural exchange with Indians. I also had to deal with a few apparel factories in Middle East; a lot of their staff was Indian as well. Again, we had a pretty good working relationship with them. At another job, one of my buyers was an American born Indian. I got on well with her. I never got any hate vibe or felt in any way discriminated against. When I was working on Tkfr issue 13 back in 2005, I remember I contacted a few of Indian designers over the net…Tarun Tahiliani, Geisha Designs and Satya Paul were very nice to me, in fact, they were way over nicer than all the local designers put together! They sent me high resolution photographs of their work, gave me exclusive stuff to quote in my magazine and were very friendly and businesslike. All in all, it was a good experience there too.
As far as people of other religions are concerned – I don’t consider myself a bigot there either. Yes, two of my friends and former business colleagues are Christians. We have broken bread together, laughed together and worked together. Our differences, if any, have never been on religious grounds anyway but purely on professional grounds. I have couple of friends in USA as well, I am not even sure if they are Jewish or Christian, the question never came up…we exchange an occasional email every three years to say hi. I still have fond memories of them. I treasure the book one of them sent me over one Christmas, a compilation of short stories by writers from her home town in Minnesota because she knew even back in those days that I wrote and she wanted to encourage me.
People are people. They smile, they cry, they eat, they sleep, they talk, normal every day human activity. It’s universal and forms a common bond between humanity. What divides us is not any individual behavior but collective behavior – so it’s never personal. On individual one-to-one basis, we simply can’t hate a fellow human being, especially if they are a total stranger! You have to know someone deeply to feel hatred for them. Hatred unfortunately, can never be in the abstract. It’s not an intellectual exercise but about a feeling. So am I disturbed about the fact that my friend is disturbed about the growing feeling of hatred she sees in her contemporaries for the Indians?
No, I am not. Not because we are intolerant people. Simply because when we are young, we are more idealistic and intellectual ideals matter to us a lot plus youth is always hot blooded, more vocal and more emotional. With maturity, you cool down and learn to separate facts from feelings and look at things they way they are instead of what they ought to be and you learn to tolerate the reality while you stick to your ideals. It’s as simple as that. By the way, I don’t see a lot of Pakistanis over the net putting fighting talk on public forums, but I do see a lot of Indians expressing their contempt for Pakistan on them. Try CNN sometime or BBC. Most of young Pakistanis are all talk and no action so no, I am not worried.
So back to the real question, can there be peace between India and Pakistan? Yes, if both parties want peace and can arrive at equitable solution. However, talk will not do it. You have to put your money where your mouth is – unfortunately, Indian government’s actions and their words contradict each other. They keep saying they are for peace but they keep preparing for war. So obviously, since Pakistan has a policy of tit-for-tat, you have to keep a minimum deterrence in place to avoid an outright war. Is it fair? No, it’s not. But then, that’s life.
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#1 by Fareeha Qayoom on September 1, 2010 - 12:00 pm
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Pakistan accepts India aid, but no real disaster diplomacy
Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:33am IST
NEW DELHI (AlertNet) — India said on Tuesday that arch-rival Pakistan had accepted its offer of flood aid, but analysts say this piecemeal attempt at disaster diplomacy will not help improve relations between the two sides.
Pakistan’s floods, which began over a month ago, have submerged a fifth of the country and left around 6 million people homeless in one of the world’s biggest humanitarian crises of recent years.
http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-51209520100901
#2 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 31, 2010 - 9:59 am
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India says six rebels killed on Kashmir border
Monday, 30 Aug, 2010
SRINAGAR: Indian soldiers on Monday shot dead six separatist militants trying to cross over from Pakistan into the disputed region of Kashmir where popular protests against Indian rule have mounted in recent weeks.
India’s parliament was told last week that militants based in Pakistan have stepped up efforts to infiltrate into Indian-administered Kashmir before winter snow blocks the Himalayan mountain passes.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/14-india-says-six-rebels-killed-on-kashmir-border-zj-04
#3 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 29, 2010 - 11:00 pm
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Indian aid should come through UN
By Baqir Sajjad Syed
Sunday, 29 Aug, 2010
ISLAMABAD: After dithering over the offer for days, Pakistan has finally come clean with its India-is-the-enemy stance and refused to directly accept India’s offer of $5 million in relief assistance for flood victims, suggesting instead that the aid be donated to the UN flood response appeal.
A senior official at the Foreign Office confirmed on Saturday that the decision had been conveyed to New Delhi through diplomatic channels.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/message-conveyed-to-delhi-indian-aid-should-come-through-un-980
#4 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 29, 2010 - 10:57 pm
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Over 400 jailed Indian fishermen set to be freed
By Bhagwandas
Sunday, 29 Aug, 2010
KARACHI: The federal government on Saturday ordered the release of 442 Indian fishermen, including two minors, who despite having completed their sentences — some of them years ago — were still being held in prisons here, Dawn has learnt.
Sources said that 456 Indian prisoners had completed their sentences but the government had ordered the release of 442, which meant that 14 prisoners who had completed their sentences would not be released.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/442-jailed-indian-fishermen-set-to-be-freed-980
#5 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 28, 2010 - 9:33 am
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Pakistan Shying Away From Indian Flood Aid
AHN News Staff
Islamabad, Pakistan (AHN) — Even though Pakistan agreed to accept $5 million in flood relief from India last week, it has not yet asked the Indian government to start supplying the aid. While the issue is still under discussion with the Pakistan Foreign office, sources claim that the government fears a radical backlash and as a result is not showing any interest in receiving Indian aid.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7019720973?Pakistan%20Shying%20Away%20From%20Indian%20Flood%20Aid
#6 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 28, 2010 - 9:30 am
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No change seen in Pakistan’s view of India threat
By Myra MacDonald
ISLAMABAD, Aug 27 (Reuters) — The Pakistan army is unlikely to change its assessment of the threat from India despite heavy demands on its troops to provide flood relief while also fighting Islamist militants, a senior security official said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE67Q070
#7 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 28, 2010 - 9:28 am
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Talks with Pakistan must continue: Singh
* Indian PM alleges Islamabad tried to block India in Afghanistan
NEW DELHI: Dialogue with Pakistan must continue despite involvement of some elements in Islamabad in attacks on Indians in Afghanistan, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Friday.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\08\28\story_28-8-2010_pg7_35
#8 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 23, 2010 - 1:34 pm
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Comment: Defying Indian stereotypes
By Jawed Naqvi
Monday, 23 Aug, 2010
I am in Mustafabad for the weekend. It’s a small village at the halfway mark on a refurbished dual-carriage road which links Lucknow with Allahabad. Gandhi had sent Nehru here to bring his message of non-violence to agitating peasants. The young apprentice found himself equally if not more at ease with Muslim and Hindu landlords who governed the area, first for the Shia nawabs of Oudh and later for its British rulers.
http://news.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/jawed-naqvi-snapshots-of-a-village-that-defy-indian-stereotypes-380
#9 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 20, 2010 - 2:24 pm
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Pakistan accepts India’s offer, appeals for more aid
Friday, 20 Aug, 2010
NEW DELHI: Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi appealed to the international community to provide more and immediate aid to cope with the humanitarian crisis due to the floods.
Moreover, Pakistan has decided to accept flood aid from its neighbour India, saying the offer was a “very welcome initiative” as both countries look to improve their tense relations.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/03-pakistan-accepts-indias-offer-of-flood-aid-ss-04
#10 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 20, 2010 - 10:30 am
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Manmohan Singh calls PM Gilani on flood aid
Thursday, 19 Aug, 2010
NEW DELHI: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh called Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Thursday to express solidarity over the country’s devastating floods and to urge him to accept an offer of aid.
Relations between the two countries, which have fought three wars since 1947, are tense and contact rare, with a wide-ranging peace process begun back in 2004 currently suspended.
India offered five million dollars last week in aid after Pakistan endured its worst floods in 80 years, but Islamabad is yet to decide whether to accept the gesture.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/04-singh-calls-gilani-qs-10
#11 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 20, 2010 - 12:57 am
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Ideal time to pick a fight with Pakistan…trust India!
India Accuses Pakistan Of Violating Cease-Fire Along Kashmir Border
India on Thursday accused the Pakistani military of violating a cease-fire along the Line of Control (LOC), which divides the disputed region of Kashmir, alleging that Pakistani soldiers opened unprovoked fire on three Indian Army outposts in the region.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/MarketSensitiveNews.aspx?Id=1397987&SM=1
#12 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 19, 2010 - 3:37 pm
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FM thanks India for $5m donation
Thursday, 19 Aug, 2010
NEW YORK: Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi made an impassioned appeal to the international community on Wednesday to help Pakistan overcome the massive flood disaster. Over six million needed immediate help, he said.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/fm-thanks-india-for-$5m-donation-980
#13 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 18, 2010 - 3:58 pm
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Prosperity can buy peace in Kashmir
By Mansoor Ijaz
Published: August 17 2010 22:08 | Last updated: August 17 2010 22:08
It has been a summer of death in Kashmir. In early June, a 17-year-old student, Tufail Ahmad Mattoo, was killed when a tear gas canister fired from close range by Indian security forces attempting crowd control hit him as he returned home from tutoring for medical exams. Last Sunday night, Fida Nabi, a 19-year-old high school student, was taken off life support after six days in hospital with a bullet in his brain.
Interspersed between these two tragedies, more than 50 other civilians have suffered similar fates – senseless deaths caused by overzealous security personnel operating on instructions from a government in New Delhi that seemed devoid, until recently, of any idea how to win back hearts and minds in Kashmir’s idyllic valley.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c4d2be60-aa31-11df-9367-00144feabdc0.html
#14 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 18, 2010 - 3:57 pm
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‘Kashmir, not terror, hurdle to India-Pakistan ties’
2010-08-17 18:10:00
Last Updated: 2010-08-17 18:18:12
Islamabad: Kashmir and not terrorism is the main obstacle to good subcontinental ties and the issue cannot be resolved till such time India insists the state is its inalienable part, an editorial in a Pakistani newspaper said Tuesday.
‘And there is no possibility of a negotiated settlement if India continues to make the assertion,’ said the editorial in Nawa-i-Waqt titled ‘Lalaji! Agar Kashmir Atoot Ang Hai to Mazakirat Kis Baat Par (Lalaji! If Kashmir is an inalienable part, then talks on what?)’
http://sify.com/news/kashmir-not-terror-hurdle-to-india-pakistan-ties-news-international-kirskhfhhcd.html
#15 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 18, 2010 - 3:55 pm
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Youth revolt in Kashmir surprises both India and Pakistan
Mass demonstrations, which have lasted more than two months, are a different kind of upheaval than those that have plagued this disputed region
By Jonathan Manthorpe, Vancouver Sun August 18, 2010 1:04 AM
After more than 60 years of dispute and conflict — even to the brink of nuclear war — over the Himalayan foothills territory of Kashmir, India and Pakistan have been caught off guard by an outpouring of disgust by the region’s people themselves.
As of Tuesday, 59 people have been killed in more than two months of sustained mass demonstrations and riots by teenagers and young men in the Indian-occupied southern portion of Kashmir.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Youth+revolt+Kashmir+surprises+both+India+Pakistan/3411359/story.html
#16 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 18, 2010 - 3:38 pm
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AUGUST 18, 2010, 1:49 PM IST
What They Said: Pakistan Spies Downgrade India Threat
By Vibhuti Agarwal
The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that a report from the Pakistan’s chief spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, said domestic militancy had overtaken the Indian army as the greatest threat to Pakistan’s national security. This is the first time since the ISI was founded in 1948 that the ISI has found a bigger threat than its neighbor. India Real Time presents a roundup of comments from readers and others below:
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/08/18/what-they-said-pakistan-spies-downgrade-india-threat/
#17 by Fareeha Qayoom on August 18, 2010 - 2:55 pm
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comment: Kashmiris favouring Pakistan
Published: August 18, 2010
S M Hali
Every August 14, Pakistan’s Independence Day, is a declaration of the Kashmiris right to self-determination. In defiance of the curfew imposed by the Indian army in Occupied Kashmir, the people venture out to raise the Pakistani flag. The entire valley reverberates with slogans of Pakistan Zindabad, as the Kashmiris express their solidarity, love and respect for Pakistan. This contrasts sharply with the Indian Independence Day, on August 15, which is normally observed by the Kash-miris as “Black Day”. Refusing to hoist the Indian flag, Kashmiris generally boycott every state-sponsored event and opt to stay indoors. The entire valley bears a deserted look and an eerie silence ensues. The question is, if that is not an expression of their desire to opt for Pakistan and totally reject Indian domination, then what other plebiscite is required?
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Opinions/Columns/18-Aug-2010/Kashmiris-favouring-Pakistan/